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Hours here on msnbc. you get what larry was saying. i need fact-checking the economic indicator for us and when foreign leaders when economists and germany hear those guys we just aired, do they think it is crazy talk? >> they are utterly confused and as our business leaders. i spoke to a number of our executives today who says we are sitting on cash because who knows what the president's policies are. for his two top advisers, peter navarro to say i can say with absolute certainty that the economy will be fine in 2020? no one could say and for larry kudlow to say there is no economic indicato...

And so there were negative economic signals coming out of the markets this week, in particular we saw an inversion of the yield curve in the bnd m bond market which is a way of saying that long term interest rates dip below short term interest rates which is a sign of choppy economic waters ahead. despite the fact that employment is still strong and in general the economy is chugging along, there is a lot of predictions being made that perhaps we'll be heading into a recession and maybe even before the elections in 2020. so these are all issues that donald trump i think wants to deflect attent...

Announcement today. christine romans sat down with the ceo of goldman sachs. several analysts said the economy could tip in a recession if things stayed like they are now. mr. solomon saying he's more rosy but adding the china question. >> i think the base economy is chugging along okay. there are things that are getting added to the equation, in particular the trade war with china, that is having an impact. it's having an impact on growth. i don't think that impact is significant yet but we're watching that very, very carefully. those are the kinds of things. what's going on with monetary pol...

Sachs see it now? christine roman sat down for an exclusive one on one with him. this was in iowa at the small business event. watch this. >> reporter: ten years into an economic recovery, the longest expansion in history, things are -- seem really solid to me. they always say that expansions don't die of old age, they die from policy mistakes. what do you see out there? >> first i want to echo that when you look at the base economy, it's chugging along okay. and while it has been a long cycle, it was a very deep recession the last time and it was a gradual slow climb out. so it's not surprisi...

State department leader and on his side just somebody who has a very core belief that was very anti-establishment. so i think that he was sort of a perfect foil in that regard. and he was the only alternative, right? so of course his support is going to fall off in '20 when there were more alternatives, and i just don't know that, you know, in the end warren may end up besting him. she's been just, you know, chugging along. >> it's an interesting dynamic to of was. more on the debates including a bizarre mystery that is now finally been solved. we will explain it to you when we come back.