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There. >> sure, it's easy when you have, you know, researchers who are in ivy towers or think tanks looking at poor people make bad decisions with finances or bad decisions with having children or getting married. they're thinking, you know, why are poor people making what appear to be obviously bad decisions? what this study is suggesting is that it's not the poor people, it's the concept of being poor, not having money imposes its own tax. they found out -- they said at one point that it's the equivalent of having 13 fewer iq points. so if we're interested in figuring out the origins of bad ...

More effect on you emotionally psychologly than over 25? >> i've looked at the studies on this as well, like the doctor has. one is cognitive and looking at iq and not a great study but a study that looked specifically at kids who started earlier on in life and 25 is a good number they picked because after that the brain is fully developed and had on average eight iq points lower by the time they were 38. the other one did have -- revolve around psychological addiction, a type of depen dance and found one in six children who smoke marijuana before the age of 25 were likely to become either dep...

In life and 25 is a good number they picked because that's -- the brain is more fully developed and had on average eight iq points lower by the time they were 3. the other one resolved around psychological addiction, a type of dependence and found one in six children that smoked marijuana before the age of 25 were likely to become dependent or addicted. those are the studies i found. regarding emotional dependence and things the doctor is siting. i haven't seen those studies. you have your experience but the moral equivalence, piers, that you've done a brilliant job here, how is it compared to...

In their future. it's a tough road. no question. it's a tough and grueling road. >> neil: were they bit center a lot of them sounded bitter after your loss and the way you were treated in the media. are they bitter? >> look, anybody who is a republican who goes into politics and things they're going to get a fair shake from the mainstream media is miss something iq points. you go into it knowing that you're going to have a tough road with the media. and if you're not willing to deal with that. don't get into the race. you know that. i understood it. i don't have hard feelings. i think it's har...

Do you know they have a song with bag pipes in it? and here's the remarkable thing. kids with asperger's. he would come in and start blurting out the most crazy -- and so i said, andrew, here's the deal, i'm going to pick you up from school, you turn and look to me and go, hey, dad, how was your day? and i go, it was fine, andrew, how was yours? and you think of the thing you like the most about your day in school and you tell me and after you're done, ask me what my -- how my day's been. and the remarkable thing was the next day i -- he comes in, he goes, hey, dad, how was your day? andrew, g...