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In the senate, an independent, nonpartisan commission that would have been authorized by congress but would have been doing its work sort of above and beyond the political halls of congress, from that moment on, this thing was going to become very political. obviously, nancy pelosi appointing liz was trying to keep that sense of bipartisan that she would be able to sell this as an agreed upon set of facts at the end of the day. what became crystal clear is that kevin mccarthy made his appointees including some real bomb throwers that would add to the circus environment and now nancy pelosi tak...

Bonfire -- too much. >> he >> let's not do that. >> it was a great old fashioned new york city legal political tabloid maihem scene. and just to inject sean hannity what was going to be circus environment, stick sean hannity in that, all over the place. >> this was right here, daily news. >> ka boom. >> okay. there's that. he says it was just little, and he didn't need to mention it. steve radnor's here, msnbc legal analyst danny sa vol lis joins us as well and jonathan materially. >> he says he didn't have to mention that -- mention it despite the fact he had gone on earlier this week savagin...

>> as a presidential historian, presidents have often felt cut off. donald trump is certainly someone who likes that interaction with people in large auditoriums, not necessarily one on one but in large crowds and twitter allows him, as we've said before, to communicate directly. >> well, obviously there's no problem with twitter. the problem is with donald trump's misuse of twitter, where he's constantly hijacking public policy and twisting things. i mean, this whole idea that he had tapes, we all knew there weren't going to be tapes. however, he did eat up 41 days of the national clock. we d...