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Figure. very smart very goodl3 debater. has run a very, very well organized and managed campaign. but there is a reason why he is not liked in washington and the voters of iowa may find out what those reasons are during thest are of the holidays and month of january which might mean he could be overtaken. >> give me a hint on what the reasons are. >> well,. >> -- well, he has been in the total opportunist in the eyes of many in the senate that has led him into some votes that i think will come back to haunt him. he voted against authorizing the nsa to continue the surveillance program that man...

Recognize that we need to get people out of the shadows and have a working guess worker process. but i think there's a big disagreement right now on whether that path to citizenship is going to be five years or ten years. >> is ten a fair compromise? where are you? ten okay? >> i think if people could apply -- if they can work right now and apply for citizenship in ten years, i think that could be fair. >> ten is a lot longer than i would like to see and i think most democrats would like to see. at the same time, we want a comprehensive immigration reform. and i know that there are going to be...

>> on the first play of the game. >> even the first play of the game. look, jeb bush has been a longtime proponent of immigration reform. he's been a voice of reason on this issue in the republican party. he's an important voice in the republican party on this issue. and i think he took a momentary detour, but is back to the right place, which is that once people who are here illegally become regularized, get their green cards, if they choose, after they wait the period of time that you need to wait, the number of years once you have a green card and they go through the citizenship process, th...

>> on the first play of the game. >> even the first play of the game. look, jeb bush has been a longtime proponent of immigration reform. he's been a voice of reason on this issue in the republican party. he's an important voice in the republican party on this issue. and i think he took a momentary detour, but is back to the right place, which is that once people who are here illegally become regularized, get their green cards, if they choose, after they wait the period of time that you need to wait, the number of years once you have a green card and they go through the citizenship process, th...

Of our time, and you'll find immigrants had a critical place here. >> neil: do you think whoever and whatever we do with these millions who are here illegally, the president says they would go naturally the back of the line in the citizenship process but many have crunched the numbers and looked at the various ways you get there many could move ahead. on that line, and that's not fair. >> let me go to a more fundamental issue. those people that are here have to have some legal as they're ne want to get rid of. because they're criminals or something. >> a lot of states have given them that. so ...