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Then the people will find out it was a total failure just as the soviet system collapsed. it wasn't because they decided to be peace, they went broke. i think that's what is going to happen to us and right now in the midst of this we're doing the bombing that you demonstrated but, you know where is the health of the state and when you have wars going on and constant war and terrorism, the war turned against the american people and that's why we have the attack on civil lib r -- liberties. there will be a problem in the libber erertyies and economic policy. i think these wars are needless, they...

Are putting forward that you don't need to be spying on all-americans and where does it end? and by the way, the other thing is under informed congress people. wow. what a shock. and yet they were briefed and they could have known this if they had paid attention and if they had read the legislation. >> the point was they were informed, they did know about it and they do this. >> then they are hypocrites. >> that was my point. >> i agree with you. >> here's the thing. we have to go. i have under two minutes already here. i have a problem with saying people are spying on people without defining ...