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Your story is right for you. this is -- this is how you experience it. your experience is valid because it's your experience. and i am willing to hear what your experience was. and i think in the middle east, we haven't got there yet. >> when you look at the dalai lama, you look at aung san suu kyi they have tried to effect change and civil change and democratic change through the civil process. do they need to become more strident, more militant? i mean, is there a different way of resistance? >> i mean, part of it is that, obviously, they can't do it on their own. i mean, we didn't do it on ...

Amount. >> sandra: so you are down there and witnessing what's happening, and trying to tell us about that. so what are you asking for? what do you want to see done? democrats are pointing the finger at president trump and his administration for what is happening. >> keep in mind, they came in the first time without documentation. that means it is a misdemeanor the second time, the first time it becomes a felony. this is a 1950 law that ronald reagan, nixon, bush, obama, they never carried this out. they carried it onto a civil process. so they are saying they are making it a criminal aspect. ...

State to show that wisconsin is open for business. many of those have included democrat votes. >> greta: let's say a democratic senator sneaks into town and gets picked up for speeding, does he or she get hauled in here? >> we are going to continue as has been the tradition in this state to send out officials to ask for them to come back. we are not going to force them back. if they are there, if there's an interest in coming back to wisconsin that suggests they are somewhat willing to participate in democracy again and they should be compelled to come back. >> greta: you just try to talk them...