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Its immigrant population. race riots where a sad factor, a repeated factor under thatcher, she did not respond well to that, either. so she was the product of 1950s britain. she didn't much like the '60s. the '70s were even worse for her. she was a backlash to that. >> and tina brown -- she did go against the grain in that she came out of the middle class. the grocer's daughter. what prime minister can we think of that had that kind of background? >> one of the things that i admire most about thatcher, actually. for all of her divisiveness and sort of unapologetic you know -- unwillingness at ...

That from the get-go, women are what cheryl sandburg would say are leaning back, that they're not coming in aggressively, negotiating that starting salary, negotiating the vacation days, negotiating the perk that's men do all the time without even thinking because they're open to the idea that they can ask. women don't ask. when she talks about leaning back, i see that often, waiting to get handed assignments instead of going in and the saying, hey, i want that. because the perception might be if you ask for it, you're too ambitious. how many women get told they're too ambitious? i would argue...