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Admitting, which is he's basically saying the only reason i'm successful is because i can be the class clown and i can stand up and entertain you. i remember when i interviewed him during the campaign, i said there are a lot of issues in the iraq war that you talk about and a lot of democrats nod their heads and say, yeah, there are all these different issues you could connect with people on. why don't you focus on that instead of little marco. he said if i did that, we wouldn't be sitting there having this conversation because i never would have won the nomination. he's saying he's has to act...

>> it's a silly argument, then it's not an argument at all. >> good one, van. >> ken makes a good point in talking about, listen, let's have an open mind. and let's have a full conversation. and i am culley glad -- >> an open mind, van, doesn't mind being stupid. let's be honest. >> i'm trying go somewhere, though. let me try to lay out what i think the concern is with the idea that we would be adding guns to that environment. ken, you're pointing out the positives. the positive are maybe somebody would use that gun well and stop an intruder. there are some real negatives as well. african amer...

Them why. it seems like every person we have talked to has been sweet and ingenuous and shocked. and we are too. thank you for coming on, miss mayor. i appreciate it. looking at to live of the school in parkland, florida, marjory stoneman douglas. and that is the fbi at work. still a crime scene, of course. and we just had confirmation if you are just tuning in that apparently the bodies remain inside the school, unfortunatel unfortunately. george is a student at marjory stoneman douglas high school, joining us by phone. so you knew nikolas cruz? >> yes, i had met him. >> tucker: what was your...

And shocked. and we are too. thank you for coming on, miss mayor. i appreciate it. looking at live pictures of the school in parkland, florida, marjory stoneman douglas. and that is the fbi at work.in it's still a crime scene, of course. and we just had confirmation if you are just tuning in that apparently the bodies remain inside the school, unfortunately. george nesmith is a student at marjory stoneman douglas high school, he knew the shooter. joining us by phone. b so you knew nikolas cruz? >> yes, i had met him. >> tucker: what was your impression of him? >> he was always a troublemaker. ...

With what we're doing right or he's. finished. i'm going to have aged out during lessons he needs a lot of help from whoever is sitting next to him quite yet. i don't know if it would be better to give him more help or let him get used to the rules one by one over time and. from what i understand he was given the basics with the admission and yeah but he's not really acquainted with how things are done in school because that's the commute on time and now it turns out that he's having trouble fitting in how do you enjoy being the class clown and occupying a special position. cause i'm. sure you...