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Believe in the rule of law. this is an opinion that is going to harm american interests, more than she even recognizes. she thinks that she is protecting trump, and it is a issue of status. if i'm a defensive tierney, representing either a good actor, or presumably a bad actor, it was spying for the chinese, and the government has classified information with using against we to protect american interests. my first argument is to quote her opinion. to say, essentially, there is nothing we can trust about the governments classification system. that, is basically, what i would do if i were in def...

Notion of the exceptionalism of these that is, but if i am a defense attorney representing either a good actor, presumably a bad actor, let's say someone who is spying for the chinese, and the government has classified information against me that they are using against me to protect american interests, my first argument is to quote her opinion, to say essentially that there is nothing that you can trust about the government's classification system. that's basically what -- that's what i would do if i were defensive tierney right now. finally, i do want to say about what this case means for the...

Technical breach we know exists, by virtue of the fact they are classified documents in a place that wasn't secure, or consider the other stuff, the intelligence community is talking about in terms of the damage assessment, the actual dangers that may be faced because names and sources might be up there? >> any unauthorized disclosure of classified material is, by definition, a threat to national security. material is not classified if it is not deemed to be a threat to national security. there's a separate conversation we could have that i look forward to having some day, about our classifica...

Intelligence operations in the united states, the stuff is over classified. and there is some argument that at lower levels of stuff, that is otherwise existing in the public domain, someone would have testified about it in congress, but these documents remained classified, and sometimes, they don't get unclassified enough time for people, researchers, journalists, they get access to them. that is not what you are talking about in some of these cases. there are markings on some of these things that were taken from mar-a-lago, that i am unfamiliar with. and i was not familiar with until today. ...

The justice department is pursuing now all do not depend on whether the documents were classified. it is irrelevant. prosecutors do not need to prove whether naughty docking meant was classified to convict someone under any of those three laws. they involve the theft or concealment of government records, generally, classified or not. the concealment of documents, as part of an attempt to obstruct a government effort like the effort to retrieve these documents. also, nothing to do the classified information one way or the other. and then the espionage act, which does deal with national security...