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>> yeah. it is for everyone. they brought chicks from florida years ago and built the whole colonies and now impacted and every adult here that you see represents its young that probably will not survive because they need to have these to feed their babies. >> i read i think a statisticing and might get it wrong but 1% of oiled birds survive. is that true? >> no. that is not true. that's based on old information. we'll put that to rest right now. >> okay. >> that's information from years ago without the technology we have now. >> what kind of percentage? do you have survival rates? >> yeah. it...

Get it wrong but 1% of oiled birds survive. is that true? >> no. that is not true. that's based on old information. we'll put that to rest right now. >> okay. >> that's information from years ago without the technology we have now. >> what kind of percentage? do you have survival rates? >> yeah. absolutely. it depends on the variables. it depends on species. >> bigger birds, easier to get. more noticeable. >> right. yeah. these guys are one -- rank on the higher and easier to rehabilitate. doesn't mean they're not vulnerable and don't die. we typically release about 80%, sometimes higher, some...

Or at least on a way in a specific time that's designed to meet and match with full force the worst-case scenario that can be presented to us. >> this is one of the devices that costner designed and says he came up with the idea after the exxon valdez disaster. i talked to him about it. kevin, how long have you been working on this machine, exactly? >> well, i've -- i took a technology at a department of energy probably in '92 or '93, and it was a very small, little machine and extrapolated that idea into a -- took it into r&d for about three years and enormous amount of money thinking we didn...

Developing the machines to separate oil from water and says years no one listened in government or industry. bp ordered 32 of the machines and costner testified before congress this week, his passion was visible. take a look. >> what i would recommend if i could, right, what i would demand, if i could, and i can do neither so what i would beg, what i would beg the leaders in this country and the oil industry together would be before you lift the moratorium, before you do that, to please have cleanup technology in place or at least on a way in a specific time that's designed to

Could, right, what i would demand, if i could, and i can do neither so what i would beg, what i would beg the leaders in this country and the oil industry together would be before you lift the moratorium, before you do that, to please have cleanup technology in place or at least on a way in a specific time that's designed to meet and match with full force the worst-case scenario that can be presented to us. >> this is one of the devices that costner designed and says he came up with the idea after the exxon valdez disaster. i talked to him about it.