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Remember, bill clinton, it was 30% of the country supported impeaching him. so if you have 45% supporting it, that's not a small number. and in you look at an aggregate of all the polls we've seen recently, we're looking at 45% to 50% probably support it. >> right. >> as my younger identical twin brother, david chalian, said, the polls don't change. the only time the polls have ever really changed is after the ukraine story broke, support for impeachment really did jump like over 10%. from the mueller report it was at in the 30s. >> among republicans, you're talking? >> no, among everyone. >> ...

Arrangement in the senate for the clinton impeachment. the parcelling of time is reasonable, and it's a speedy trial. so i'm surprised that the white house is treating it as laughable. >> kirsten, it's not just the white house treating it that way. i mean you have senator susan collins, republican, sometimes considered moderate, who said that it essentially was unfortunate. >> yeah. i mean, well, i just -- i think that it's one thing, you know, as jeff was saying, you have this handful of republicans who sometimes you look to the moderates and think they're going to behave differently, but in ...

Majority leader mcconnell, say they've made up their mind or know how it's going to go. democrats hear that and think that's unfair. republican also say that's the way it was in the house. >> if gu back to 1999, the democrats were very, very clear. tom daschle stood up and said there's not a single vote to impeach -- to convict the president. when we went into the chamber jeffrey was talking about, it was very clear everybody had made up their mind on the other side. and many of us were saying we want to hear the evidence. so the shoe was on the other foot. the reality is that the party of the...

>> are we rolling? are we on tape? >> we're on tape. get my war paint on here. >> we got married on his property. i had the full gown, the whole nine yards. it was a beautiful wedding. >> six months after meeting, crystal moved into the house richard's parents had built. >> i did a lot of work on the property, clearing it, maintaining it, and i enjoyed it so much. we had our chickens running free and our dogs running free, it was like dr. doolittle. it was our paradise. >> mother and son. >> but from the very start, crystal's paradise hid secrets. >> when did things start to go wrong? >> our h...

The two bonded over their shared love of animals and dreams of travel. >> are we rolling? are we on tape? >> we're on tape. get my war paint on here. >> we got married on his property. i had the full gown, the whole nine yards. it was a beautiful wedding. >> six months after meeting, crystal moved into the house richard's parents had built. >> i did a lot of work on the property, clearing it, maintaining it, and i enjoyed it so much. we had our chickens running free and our dogs running free, it was like dr. doolittle. it was our paradise. >> mother and son. >> but from the very start, crystal...