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Investigation over his dealings in ukraine. could cooperating with the house 6th committee potentially help him when it comes to that probe? >> i think it can. and, you know, i think that rudy giuliani, do not underestimate him. i know in recent years, he came across as kind of a crackpot, but he spent many years working for the southern district of new york and he knows how this works. he prosecuted mafia families. he knows about exchanging information for cooperation for leniency. and so i think that he is in a very good position to try to leverage this opportunity to testify for leniency in...

Testifies. he's a lawyer, but is he acting as a lawyer? and if he is acting as a lawyer, does it matter because he's the president's personal lawyer? he's not part of the executive branch. you several different kinds of privilege. you have attorney/client privilege which happens when an attorney and a client discuss legal services. and that privilege can disappear if it's communicated to a third party. >> can these conversations that giuliani was having with ukraine be deemed as providing legal services to the president? >> i cannot imagine a scenario where this is an attorney/client privilege...