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Election, in particular they were trying to come up with ways to prove that there was vote fraud in georgia to be able to turn that election there. that is of keen interest to this grand jury. we know that meadows was on that one phone call where trump was talking to brad raffensperger in georgia trying to find the exact number of votes that he needed to be able to win. in georgia -- he also went down to georgia to sit in on an audit that was happening in one of the counties there. there's plenty of witness that meadows certainly had, and that the grand jury would want to know as part of their...

Months but only 60 $500. the justice department was already asking for $200,000. unfortunately, the judge appointed by donald trump, who is a former clerk for justice clarence thomas gave bannon a slap on the wrist, which she sort of touted in his courts have steps. >> what do you think that was? what was the legal basis for going so cleanly on the benin to find the subpoena? >> i was surprised, the judge put the difference in terms at the request, because the justice department was asking for six months, and bannon was asking for probation. the judges that bannon was unlikely to commit a crim...

Then emails that you receive or send, they refer to the issue where you are providing them with legal advice they would be covered under either the attorney client privilege or the attorney were client privilege. except if you for instance chart to obtain advice in order to commit a crime. that's what judge carter said here is more likely than not. he found that both with respect to a verification that the former president had signed in court that said, yes, i think that there were more than 15,000 votes that should not have been cast, judge carter said there is no way you could think that. th...

Was clear he was stonewalling them in trying to uncover a lot of documents. that's why they don't want to go back to that adversarial process in at all possible. >> i want to turn your attention to this remarkable ruling by the judge over an email. judge carter's decision actually sides with eastman about most of the documents saying they're either covered by lawyer/client privilege or written in preparation that protects them. those emails are damning. the judge writes this. the emails show that president trump knew that the specific numbers of voter numbers were wrong but continues to tout w...

Privilege, which means that it must be a government document, and you've told me it's a personal document. metaphysically it cannot be both. he doesn't say those words -- >> it's no venn diagram where they overlap. >> reporter: another one he says there are a number of records you've said is attorney/client privilege, but there is a third party involved so how can it be attorney/client privilege? and a strange letter apparently sent from the trump lawyers to the justice department. and he says to them, was it sent? and neither side wants to say yes or no we didn't receive it. and so he's frust...