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Deniers help govern the united states. they have the job to tell us the truth. joining me is chip saltsman, mike huckabee's campaign manager in the 2008 presidential race and michael mann, professor of meteorology at penn state, author of the hockey stick and the climate wars, dispatches from the front lines. professor, did you get your sound on there? >> i think we've got it. >> okay. >> let me ask you about this. you know, my sense is that climate change and evolution are like gravity. they're a fact. drop a quarter, it falls. it's a fact. don't argue about it. it's not one of the many theor...

>> i think we've got it. >> okay. >> let me ask you about this. you know, my sense is that climate change and evolution are like gravity. they're a fact. drop a quarter, it falls. it's a fact. don't argue about it. it's not one of the many theories out there. it is a scientific reality. if somebody has some other standard besides science, i want to hear what it is, business practices, religion, tell me you have some other way of judging something besides the scientific method. as a scientist, is there any doubt that climate changing is a problem and it's caused by man? >> well, there are a few...

>> there is nothing better than eating in front of a tv. >> it is. i hope anyone eating is enjoying the great food for thought while eating great food. >> i imagine at 3:00 a.m. they are eating a hot pocket. >> or a marijuanaen fused brown knee. >> and then a hot pocket and maybe dor retoes. >> anything with a lot of flavor. the study asks people about climate changing. it said when request questioned about climate change most believe the world is heading for a major disaster. but only half will pay more for echo friendly goods. i'm assuming the second half will welcome a disaster and it is ...

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>> senator, first, on the issue of climate change. do you believe that the climate change is the result of man made or is it man made in any way? >> well, first of all, the climate changing has always been changing there has never been a time when the climate hasn't been changing. what percentage of that is due to man's activity is not something there is a con ken us is on. there there is. >> what do you think? >> again, i'm a policymaker and my job is to go through the different solutions that they present to us. can i tell it you that all the changes they at presenting to us would do nothing...