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Global warming. we need to very rapidly curtail emissions to avoid increasing to another 1/2 degree or two. and this is the one shot to pass a climate bill. that's something that democrats, remember, tried the last time they had unified power in 2009 and 2010 and it didn't happen, and guess what, things got much worse over the next ten years, and the rate at which we have to decarbonize has increased dramatically, so democrats have one chance for a substantial climate package right now where they can expect to wait another decade, which is likely way too late. with that urgency, democrats are ...

Package right now. where they can expect to wait another decade, which is likely way too late. that urgency, democrats are right now trying to tiptoe across a legislative type rope, with the entire biden agenda and the, future of the country, and the world in their arms. and it's looking pretty dicey up there. on the hill, the house is planning to hold a vote on one part of the biden agenda. that's the bipartisan infrastructure, bill that has some climate stuff, but nowhere near enough. progressive democrats say that they won't vote for, that unless the 3.5 trillion dollar build back better ag...

Narrative wit what they're talking about what'sn the bill not just because it's popular and should and will affect whether it gets passed. but also because if this thing gets passed, it's important that it be right that, it be the next big bang for the buck we cou get. this could be the biggest piece of climate legislation we pass for the country ever. as such, is it a collection of right ideas? would it make a de? joining us now is bill mckibben. he's a climate expert, he's one of the founders of the grassroots effort 350.org. mr. mckibben, thanks for being here. >> what a pleasure, rachel. >...

Right ideas? would it make a dent? joining us now is bill kibben. mr. kibben, thanks for being here. >> what a pleasure, rachel. >> i imagine you are rooting for the reconciliation bill, the build back better bill, to pass because it seems like america's biggest stab yet in doing something on climate. but what do you actually think substantively about the climate stuff that's in it? does it appeal to you? >> yes, absolutely. not only is it our best stab, it would be theirst piece of serious legislation that the u.s. congress has ever passed on climate change. i looked through it in great detai...

But to cheer him on, and tell him how much they support. it which you're seeing here is around the big infrastructure, bill including all the climate stuff it's the opposite of the bloody minded screaming crazy right wing opposition to obamacare. that we saw at this exact point in the obama presidency. opposition substance or otherwise is not materializing on the right. against president biden's major proposals the way it did for president obama. that of course is a problem that democrats have the fix for they might just decide in the absence of significant pushback they might just decide that...