And off the mat. mike powell runs the chicago chapter. what is a success for you? >> creating life champions. a life champions to us is somebody who what is changed their lives, the way they function, their futures, right -- >> reporter: when it comes to diversity, wrestling lags badly behind other college sports. a recent survey found about 7% of division one wrestlers are black, compared to 48 players of football and 56% in basketball. >> being a minority in any sport is very different. you kind of don't know your place. >> reporter: ed ruth won three ncaa championships at penn state, now he...