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A bad number for any position. i guess some of the clinton crowd would say, look that number was just as high for bill clinton and he got re-elected in 1996. >> well, that is the question. can you be considered untrustworthy and still be somebody who people want to see in the white house? and i think, steve, we also have to take a step back and remember that while i do think, as we were discussing, that that is a risk tease built into this for her. if those numbers drive far enough up, it becomes a defining character issue. it certainly could hurt her. but she still has to come up against an o...

We have businesses and investors threatening to pull out because of perceived intolerance and the people of the state will have to make it clear that they're better than a few of their government leaders. they're doing that right now. that's a good start. we're going to have to put some of these civil rights protections on the books. one because it's the right thing to do and we should have done it all along but also because we have to show the business community that we're serious about being open to everybody. >> thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> elizabeth warren made new co...

One of the things comes from the book is the way the elite opinion constrains what is possible in a given moment. i think that's something that comes through very powerfully in the book. that must be the case when you are sitting inside an administration, what is on the table and what is not on the table is something that arises out of where elite consensus is. >> i think that's part of suskind's point. look who was in the white house and at treasury. these are people who are from wall street, deeply connected to wall street. i think ezra makes a very point point there, even within that, accep...