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>> a couple big statements. outright saying the dnc has stolen their information, calling this a heavy-handed attempt to undermine this campaign. at one point there, jeff weaver said he believes the dnc in this case is trying to help the clinton campaign. he's coming out putting into words in front of all of the national media things that have been whispered, things that have been sort of said behind the scenes by the sanders campaign for a long time about the democratic national committee but now it is all out in the open. what i'm interested in, too, he also alluded to and he want too specif...

That sort of radicalization, a huge threat and whether it played a role in san bernardino, nobody knows. >> pete, as a veteran in this area, you get to have occasional briefings, some off the record, some on. officials. let's say fbi director and above and below and i see we're two minutes to the white house press conference now. we'll keep this short. they must express such exasperation on trying to read minds as to who is getting information, who is becoming in effect weaponized among americans in private homes across this country. >> this is the big concern. they say farook and marquez neve...

Sometimes very hard to be able to sue these groups because they are considered political parties. they get to make up the rules. now, what the sanders campaign is making the argument that the dnc is holding some of their proprietary information with these voters lists so that's probably their argument there, but it gets really tricky if you try to actually have a lawsuit in federal court and the court might say these political parties get to make up their own rules, they're not the federal government, not a state or local government, and that's where it gets complicated. >> so i'm not going to...

Information, they can add stuff that they find through their volunteers, through their own research, they can make it their own. on the other side of that wall, the clinton campaign have access to the same basic information and they can do the same thing. they can tweak it and make it their own. well, the wall broke down at some point. what you have here is at least one person in the sanders campaign made the decision to go ahead and start looking through some accessing the clinton side of the wall. that's not something obviously you are supposed to do. the clinton campaign right now, there's ...

Temporary suspension, the debate is tomorrow night. what is temporary to the dnc, especially if as weaver alludes to, other campaigns are guilty of this access like sanders' campaign? >> yeah. that last point as steve was making was very cryptic and of course, we are dealing with information that we do know. the statements we have received from the dnc, the statements we got from the sanders campaign, and then of course, the documents that nbc has been able to obtain that actually show that through this traceable log, that there was some poking around the clinton proprietary information on the...