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Democracy? >> i understand that. but you have to look at it from the politics as he sees it. >> the interest defies the means. go ahead. >> mr. trump -- i've asked him to withdraw, because i think mike pce could win. but when he gets angry, he' angry at a media double standard that digs up stuff about him and does not dig up stuff -- >> we've lived with the clinton mess. i covered the clinton piece for years. >> in the end of a campaign, tapes arrive, tax returns displayed, the podesta e-mails are not getting the coverage -- >> "access hollywood" went after donald trump? >> no, somebody on tha...

We didn't push it beyond that. it was clear this was still on his mind. >> i'm going to be a little bipartisan here. you weren't here but i was here during the whole clinton mess. for a long time i sort of watched the people and thought who is going to be honest during this real mess? you have a president saying something that's not true, everybody knows it's true, he did have this relationship, whatever you think of it, but some people like carville would never deny it. he would say this "itsy bitsy sex thing." when you make people lie with you, the cabinet secretary is going to be asked this...