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Particularly breitbart, with its kind of nightmare headline on the daca story. its description of how john kelly won't let anybody in the room with news clips during the day. he gets his briefing in the morning. he gets to see a very specific type of story. you know, in the weeks since steve bannon was"60 minutes" and kelly has come in, we've seen a different kelly come in. he's a shake shifter and does unpredictable things all the time, but i wonder if part of the change is due to a change in his own media diet. >> i don't know that that's happening. eric bowler, if the clinton rules are that...

This has had an impact on her campaign. it has affected her credibility, how voters view her. so to me, making this sudden change of heart is the first big acknowledgement that the clinton campaign realizes this is a potential problem and they want to move on as quickly as possible. to jeff's point, how big is this? hitting at the incredibly important issues of how much people can trust her? >> people will always attack any politician. this is a good example of what we in clinton land have called clinton rules. remember how we filmed out when mitt romney left the governor's office in massachus...

It's always always always based on criminalality. >> people use the phrase "clinton rules" in different ways. there's clinton rules that clintons don't think they have to the rules and then there's the way of throwing the normal evidentiary standards of going after the clinton. both exist. clintons regularly cut ethical corners and a little sloppy in their conflicts of interest and there's a longstanding journalistic vendetta against the clintons that allows people to exaggerate and follow the sort of right-wing conspiracy theories down all sorts of rabbit holes and so it makes it -- you sort ...

Criminality. >> this is what i wrote today. is that people use the phrase clinton rules in two different ways. they use clinton rules to talk about the clintons don't think that they should follow the rules, and then there's clinton rules which is the way journalists consistently kind of throw out normal evidentiary standards in going after the clintons. both of these kind of rules exist. clintons regularly cut ethical corners and are a little bit sloppy in their conflicts of interest and there is a kind of long-standing journalistic vendetta against the clintons that kind of allows people to ...

It's an honor system. >> let me ask ron. >> all the process issues matter more to us. this is a bad trend. i think she made a bad choice to do this level of public business through personal e-mail. it's a bad trend and it should be resisted. having been up and down the hill of clinton scandals i think the odds are pretty high this is going to matter less on whether she's president or not than we think today. >> it reminds people allow the rnc to make that kind of an ad and reminds people about -- >> it's part of the package. >> the clinton rules. >> who are not forclinton in the first place es...