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Today's "new york times" say democrats don't have any other choice. adam, i want to ask you this. because there are a lot of us politics nerds that focus inses incessantly. you know about the world. you're involved. when you hear about the hrkzillary clinton stuff, are you already tired of 2016. >> we don't know if she's running, first of all. i am a registered democrat. what i do find sad is well who else do we have? that did not inspire a lot of confidence as a democrat. she got schooled by obama in 2008. ultimately, she couldn't close the deal. she's got the biggest foundation machine and s...

We're going to sort ourselves into two tribes. and rinse and repeat for the next 18 months. >> yes, i think you summed that up. that is also the past 24 years, the past 24 years, the next two years, and maybe the next ten years. that is what you -- there are legitimate questions to be asked. you ask legitimate questions about every candidate, right? especially ones with long political histories and ties. you don't want to take away the legitimacy of it. you have the glare of scandal headlines, and then a foggy smear about how this is scandal ridden clinton stuff. and then what is legitimate an...

Looks like they're being held to a ridiculously high standard. we're going to sort ourselves into two tribes. and rinse and repeat for the next 18 months. >> yes, i think you summed that up. that's also the past 24 years. is it is both the past 24 years, the next two years, two knows, maybe the next ten years. that is what you -- there are legitimate questions to be asked, as we ask legitimate questions, especially candidates with long political histories and deep political ties. you don't want to take away the legitimacy of it. you have the glare of scandal headlines, and then a foggy smear a...

Bunch of candidates on the republican side. it's going to be like this for the next several years. >> what's also interesting about this, let's say you don't even -- let's say the piece against doug band and the new republic by a very respected investigative reporter, let's say it's not fair. let's posit that for a second, it's not fair. it still reveals that somebody out there is settling scores. somebody in clinton land has an axe to grind with doug band and that's kind of the problem that has existed in the past with clinton world is all these people around them who take shots at each other...

And the secretary had a tremendous run as secretary of state. and i think lois is exactly right. a lot of the clinton stuff, if you will, had moved aside. now it is moving back into the center. i would say one thing of context in fairness, remember that benghazi dropped into the movie of the presidential campaign. when you're a career foreign service officer, you don't want to politicize your podium. you're trying to convey a mention to the american people without inserting yourself into the campaign. so i think that explains some of the conservative sensitive reaction of the state department....