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Organization has done from the charities to the trump -- to the money laundering to bank fraud to wire fraud to insurance fraud. they'll take the empire apart. they'll take buildings away. that's when i'll come back on the show because that will be the closing act. this and mueller will be the opening act. i still think that russia is going to be a sidebar into this. a peek inside this criminal enterprise. you saw the little pieces coming into play. you saw the word insurance come up for the first time. you saw him mentioning the children in different ways. you saw obviously the campaign viola...

Collusion or against anybody for swircy and that's the clesing act of this drama and we're but if there was in fact a conspiracy on the part of a presidential campaign to conspire to defraud the american people or defraud the government, that, believe me, is the claes at,that is the closing act of this whole thing. we should be very clear, just because everybody is lying doesn't man a lot of slopey behavior, do anything for the boss so to your point, your question,

That the special counsel has the president's written answers. is the closing act around the corner?

Map is so hostile to democrats that it prevents major losses there and the house is so redistricted and we're so partisanized now that there are limits to what democrats can do. he's insulated in that way. i agree with doris completely. the truth is that whatever you think about what the president has done, he has rallied his base and the question is, those independent voters, who john avalon was talking about earlier, how are they reacting to his closing act and will he drive some of them away? >> the evidence so far is that they don't love it. that's what we're seeing in the polls. >> right....

Forget who he is to america. >> again, this is very america centric view of this. >> i can't tell where danielle is on cuba. she might be vacationing there. i disagree a little with helene. there is an american view of this. i will say there was something poignant about castro's death. and the final eight weeks of obama's presidency, and i look at it when he was elected in 2008, and part of the feeling was that new generations turning the page on that history. history would not get out of his way in the timetable, and here it is the closing act of his presidency, and he gets castro out of the ...