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And you are talking about the motion to proceed. closing debate essentially. each loses power when we move away from the 60 vote standard. that would cause me great concern. there is nobody actively com paining for that and if they are, they are not catching momentum. >> what is your concern here in the debate about susan rice. is it what she did or what could be? what do you think should matter more? >> i want to focus on the sectio702 of the surveillance act. this is something i have been warning about for six years now. i have been concerned about the

Down. >> how many senator do you need to join with you in order to make it so judge gorsuch has to clear 60 votes? >> you have to have 41 senators vote against closing debate. >> there are 48 democratic senators. >> of the 48 you need 41. >> so we have either 48 who are either democrats or caucusing with the democrats. do you have sense of your colleagues' views towards this and whether or not you think you'll clear that 41 vote number. >> well, i suspect we're going to hear a lot of statements from colleagues but the colleagues who we're waiting to see if possibly the president would nominate...

Someone make a nomination two years into their four years or three years into their four years or their entire four years? so i made it clear i was going to insist on a 60-vote standard and that i would vote against closing debates. so this is the way you start what we refer to as the filibuster and we hope there will be enough votes to shut it down. >> how many senator do you need to join with you in order to make it so judge gorsuch has to clear 60 votes? >> you have to have 41 senators vote against closing debate. >> there are 48 democratic senators. >> of the 48 you need 41. >> so we have ...

And that i would vote against closing debates. so this is the way you start what we refer to as the filibuster and we hope there will be enough votes to shut it down. >> how many senator do you need to join with you in order to make it so judge gorsuch has to clear 60 votes? >> you have to have 41 senators vote against closing debate. >> there are 48 democratic senators. >> of the 48 you need 41. >> so we have either 48 who are either democrats or caucusing with the democrats. do you have sense of your colleagues' views towards this and whether or not you think you'll clear that 41 vote number...