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The companies ought not to be prospering from hate. >> where do you thee see this discussion going? the politics as jessica is alluding to are really complex. >> i think this is likely to stay where it is right now which is that private companies are going to be the ones making decisions about where to draw the line. so in this case, it was cloudflair, but it could have been face book or twitter. it could have been a web host. in the absence of any meaningful federal standard on where to draw the line on this, which i don't think is a bad thing necessarily, i think these private companies are ...

They have a right to free speech but they don't deserve for the companies to be amplifying them. the companies ought not to be prospering from hate. >> where do you thee see this discussion going? the politics as jessica is alluding to are really complex. >> i think this is likely to stay where it is right now which is that private companies are going to be the ones making decisions about where to draw the line. so in this case, it was cloudflair, but it could have been face book or twitter. it could have been a web host. in the absence of any meaningful federal standard on where to draw the l...

Up. they are now at 21 confirmed dead in el paso, texas. that brings the total number killed in the two mass shootings in this country over the weekend to 30 now, 30 people killed in two separate shootings in the united states over this weekend. i want to bring in nbc's ben collins now, msnbc terrorism analyst evan coleman, senior partner at flash point also with me. ben, let me start with you. as pete just mentioned there, this network provider, cloud fair, cutting off services to 8chan. is that going to have any sort of measurable impact? >> cloud flair would like you to believe that it is n...

Officials here. but were there red flags missed in either incident? >> don't know about dayton yet, and in terms of el paso perhaps but they came so close to the time of the shooting and that's this essay that was posted but it was 19 minutes before the shooting that it was posted. this is at least the third time somebody responsible for a mass shooting appeared to take inspiration from a website called 8chan. in that essay that investigators say patrick crusius posted online before the shooting he praised the shooting attack on mosques in new zealand that killed 51 people and the gunman who a...

Need to live life. you need to enjoy life. it's unfortunate that this happened or whatever, and the thing is, we have to keep going on. >> thank you. thank you for your time. thank you, thank you. >> uh-huh. >> i want to turn back to my colleague, chris jansing, in el paso, texas, where people are still processing this act of hate inflicted on a community. >> many of them, craig, over the course of the last hour, have been laying flowers and balloons and messages at the makeshift memorial at the walmart behind me. last night thousands of people, an overflow crowd, gathered in el paso. there wa...