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To turning out the republican base and they need that if they stand a chance of trying to hold back any blue wave. >> jon: the president seemed to push ron desantis to victory in florida. >> absolutely. if you watch the florida race right now what we're about to see over the next five or six weeks is a preview of the 2020 white house race. people have called it a prox -- this is a fight for both parties. they've run to their extreme sides and gone to the corners and think that will take them. as mo said, i agree. it comes to turnout. >> jon: elections are won in the middle. >> i agree generall...

Politics -- i don't know either of one of them would run for anything ever again. but anyone runs on that, promise made, promise kept, on that legacy of foreign policy and national security strength that's made america and the world a safer place? they will do well running on that. >> well, i think what mo said, what everyone said, senator mccain has said, bob gates is someone who he's universally respected in this town. when someone of that nature, who doesn't come at this real political angle, has these kind of observations about both policy and politics, how people are coming to these key d...

That's made america and the world a safer place? they will do well running on that. >> well, i think what mo said, what everyone said, senator mccain has said, bob gates is someone who he's universally respected in this town. when someone of that nature, who doesn't come at this real political angle, has these kind of observations about both policy and politics, how people are coming to these key decisions, it does have an effect. one of the two is going to run for president. i think both of them are going to suffer because it is someone who has tremendous amount of credibility and respect in ...

You know, if we've been talking about it for 30 years and presidents from carter to obama have a been talking about it, it's about time we start to do something. >> yeah, it's a fair comparison. the reason why ask four residents later, as mo said, we're still talking about this. but here is the real issue. we need a leader. someone who is going to hold our feet to the fire and pass legislation in a bipartisan way. when you take a look at ronald reagan and george h.w. bush, no one was able to bring two sides of the opposing issue together for the benefit of the common good. let's hope that this...