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That it was completely extremely plausible and that she didn't want to raise her kids in a country like that. and watching my parents' response to -- and their heart break watching what happened at squirrel hill, my father actually called it an old-fashioned pagram, has been frankly heart breaking. >> howard, let me ask you, because you are a communications expert, like i try to be. talk about these code words. i guess i understand the nationalist of nationalist socialism, of course, and the '30s when they called themselves nationalists, including the guy whose name escapes me right now from s...

News people are dedicated professionals. that's what we do. we don't put out messages filled with hate and make us targets, but we've become targets. and it's a terrible sign of our times. and also a sign we're in a position we've never been in this country. what's happening here in this country is nothing -- i've been around for a long time. it's nothing i've ever seen before. and i remember the vaet pneumwar and protests and everything else. this is at a height and level of venom and hate i've never seen. and unfortunately i believe it's being encouraged in places and frankly the responsibil...

Everybody was on our side. and really, i have never seen this feeling like it is today, the talk that you see in mainstream areas is anti-set -- anti-semitic talk. the code words that they use. international bankers is what the white hate guys always talk about. the rockets childs, and the false jewish conspiracy that drive this is anti-semitism. and you see the talk getting out in the mainstream with little caveats to it like globalism or bankers over here. so it is -- it kind of morphs back and forth. it is too close to normal talk. i have never seen it this close. before it was condemned. a...

Nothing right even if he cured cancer media. that's code words. it's not code words. he is standing up for americans and american workers and taxpayer fighting for better deals for america. that's what that means. >> absolutely. you were pointing out the hypocrisy. up in california, the governor of california jerry brown, he was governor in 1975 and republican president jerry ford wanted to relocate 130,000 refugees and jerry brown resisted and said we have too many people on welfare. i didn't make that up. he is still the governor right now. i have no idea what happened. >> [overlapping talki...

Media, oh that's code words he's sending out. he's standing up for americans, american workers, taxpayers fighting for better deals for america. that's what that means. >> absolutely. and you were pointing out sean the hypocrisy. i'm in california. the governor of california is jerry brown. he was also governor in 1975 and jerry ford wanted to relocate 130,000 vietnamese refugees and jerry brown said we have too many hispanics, too many people on welfare, i don't make that up, he's still the governor right now. i have no idea what happened. >> sean: god help you. >> [ laughter ] the dali lamin...