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Important to focus on changes of the legal immigration system in exchange for codifying daca. the end of chain migration the president talked about, an end to the diversity lottery. those are very important and i would argue more important than the wall. i doubt those will get done, either. >> i'm certainly not -- i'm not negotiating this bill but democrats have made it very firm that the funding bill is the last train leaving the station for daca. >> bill: we have the stubborn thing called videotape. it came long before bitcoin. because of videotape we have this from 2016. >> we'll authorize ...

Dangerous enforcement loopholes, eliminating the lottery and ending chain migration. okay. i think there is a deal to be had here. you take out the extremes on the right and the extremes on the left and you have a president who can wedge the middle. am i on to something? >> you are. for that to work you just read a long list of border security issues. in order to get that done that kind of deal will require the president to give up some of that in order to get what he really wants which is the border wall. right now the democrats, they are the opposite. they want one thing. they want daca and ...

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Would rather have the political issue of daca and have these people scared that they are going to leave the country than to give him something that is reasonable and necessary for the security of our country. >> bill: smart to put secretary kelly on this, chief of staff? >> absolutely. he has a lot of credibility on the issue. bill, this is only, however, one of two issues. the issue we're now looking at but also a big issue underneath on spending. because what the republicans want to do in the spending bill is increase defense spending and the democrats have -- are saying we will allow you to...

Attach a measure to legalize daca recipients to that and if they don't get what they want they would allow the government to shut down. now, they made threats like that in december and they didn't follow up on them. so we'll see if they do it then. now the other date march 5th is the date that daca will expire according to the president's order from last september. so they have to do something by then concerning the status of these nearly 800,000 daca recipients. that's where the dealing for the border wall is coming in. trump knows that democrats desperately want to legalize all of those daca...