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Right, anderson. he is an unusual figure in that in my experience he embellishes the bad things he's done. tries to make himself look worse rather than better which is different from how most people i've interviewed over the years. >> there's a quote from donald trump back in 2008 in your new yorker profile of stone and trump at the time said roger is a stone-cold loser. but then obviously roger stone was involved for a time in donald trump's campaign and they seem -- i don't know what the relationship is now. >> well, i think that's indicative of the very much up and down relationship that tr...

Turn to the meeting that is expected to take place between president-elect trump and mitt romney. they have not always had a rosy relationship. here, take a listen. >> here is what i know. donald trump is a phony, a fraud. >> he is a disloyal guy. he's an elitist. >> his promises are as worth lsz as a degree from trump university. >> the guy is a stone-cold loser. >> what am i to make of this meeting? is it fence mending? is it a pr maneuver or is there serious consideration of mitt romney for a cabinet position? >> i think he could end up in the cabinet. you know what? i would love to see tha...

So let's talk about this relationship and this meeting with cnn political analyst rebecca berg and cnn presidential historian, timothy neftali. i too have a great deal of skepticism about this meeting, rebecca. let's just remind people of how romney was so much a critic of donald trump during the campaign and also trump is no fan of mitt romney. just listen. >> here's what i know. donald trump is a phony, a fraud. >> but he's a disloyal guy. see, he's an elitist. >> his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. >> the guy's a stone-cold loser. >> so, rebecca, what is this me...

Fundaments where governor romney thinks america needs to go, you can make the argument similar to some of the other general themes tweeted out during his campaign. >> paris, listen, donald trump called romney an elite jan ist,a stone-cold loser. how do you think people will take that for a key position and mitt romney? >> we don't know what that meetings's going to be b but all of donald trump's supporters like myself and the millions that voted for him would be proud president-elect trump is showing leader hiship, is reach across the aisle, and the political spectrum, to people who were forme...

United states of america. >> lonny said they're polar opposites then there was this. >> here's what i know. donald trump is a phony, a fraud. >> he's a disloyal guy. he's an eletist. >> his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. >> he's a stone-cold loser. >> now what, john? >> hey, i'm an angels fan and i say a lot of nasty things about the dodgers. when the dodgers make it to the playoffs, i still cheer for them because they're the california team that's there. this is politics. this is what happens. george h.w. bush was the guy that came up with vudu economics and he w...