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Make this about big thing, but how they frame that argument to both your points, the questions about the impact of the ryan budget and whether or not and you saw it on 60 minutes, chris, romney kind of backing away from this. >> we pointed that out yesterday. i will keep doing that. let's talk about psycho babble now, my favorite topic in politic. you guys are both old enough to remember when cher broke up with sonny and back when martin and lewis broke up. you never know what will happen to the team. for some reason, starting monday, ryan and romney stopped campaigning together and romney wen...

Those polls were taken over the weekend. i wonder if he's losing the glitz and the pep of the weekend. that speech i saw this morning looked like the old romney again. >> chris, i think the way it looks to me at this point, if i'm talking to people from both parties, the risk for mitt romney is the worst of all possible worlds. he excited the base. no question. he excited the tea party and the rest of the conservative republican base with the pick of paul ryan. and now the question is going to be how loyal is he to it? how whetted is he to it? he's going to get attacked for it anyway. he can s...

If he pake - makes the pick and we are happy two or three days and back to the same old romney campaign, that will not work. it is the first card where it is a campaign about the future. you have to embrace the choice. there is always a myth you could win on a referundum. voters are not stupid. they want to know about the next four years. >> the real danger, i agree with what bill is saying. if he looks like he is backing away from the romney -- ryan plan that plays in the flip flopper and other things people wondered about romney. this could be devastating. if he pulls back and doesn't embrac...

Looking at those numbers of any vp pick in a dozen years. now here is a different view. abc/"washington post" poll had a more positive outlook. here it was. 38% viewed the pick favorably. 33% had a negative reaction to romney naming paul ryan. those polls were taken over the weekend. i wonder if he's losing the glitz and the pep of the weekend. that speech i saw this morning looked like the old romney again. >> chris, i think the way it looks to me at this point, if i'm talking to people from both parties, the risk for mitt romney is the worst of all possible worlds. he excited the base. no qu...

Like me like it and happy two or three days and then back to the same old romney campaign that won't work. this needs to be the first card that is being played in a veer reese of cards where he makes this a big campaign about the future. you have to embrace the choice. there is always a myth if you could just win a quote referendum on the last four years. voters know they are voting about the next four years and he has to clare tie what the choice is for the next four years. >> the real danger here, i agree with what bill saying, he starts looking like he is trying to back away from the ryan p...