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Year, probably not a lot, but it will go up, the president will point to and say i've started to build the wall. but three years in nothing's happened. >> he controlled congress for the first two years, could have got t gotten it done. >> so there's a new op-ed this morning entitled three years in trump is pushing his border wall. the editors of the new york times write from the earliest days of his campaign to become president, donald trump seized on the construction of a, quote, beautiful wall along the u.s./mexico border as a solution to what he assert dollars watt dangerous and costly prob...

Boogeyman scenario that would work. his supporters never thought the wall would be built. >> what is the plan to break through the road blocks you've mentioned and others as well there are out there. >> another road block i should mention is the fact that some of the funding that the administration wanted to use from a defense budget has been held up in court where they said they can't dip into that pot of money. if you can think about almost a year ago when the president said he would reopen the government without congressional funding because he wanted to argue it was a national emergency. t...

The idea of the wall as almost as he's likes to fight about the wall. and my question to you, he's talking about this all year next year too. it's going to be a key issue in his re-election, the border wall, not saying he's building it but the democrats have tried to oppose it. what are you hearing in terms of how much of a role is that going to play in 2020 whn it was the wall was sort of his signature issue in 2016, there's a lot on his plate now. but don't you think that the wall and immigration, what are you hearing, is going to play a key part to his re-election as well? >> yeah, jonathan...

Full-on re-election mode this year. >> i think it's fair to wonder, susan, why many people in the crowd aren't asking when they chant back where is the wall? you've been promising this for four years, where's the wall we've been chanting about. >> it's interesting because i remember when you would interview people at those rallies, they didn't think he would really build the wall, they just liked the concept behind it. and, julia, talking about a concept behind it, you know, one of the things that's recently come up, there's still scores of lawsuits from the george bush administration that are...

Breaking ground and they want to build what are actually new miles of wall. and this lawyer's representing a client who has a case from 2008 at the end of the bush administration. that's over ten years ago now. and so these cases can get very drawn out, very tenuous in court, especially if this is a large landowner or rancher in texas that has the means to pay the legal fees and says, no, i'm not giving up this land so easily. other people aren't as lucky. they don't have the means to pay lawyers and hold on to that. but there are a number of pro bono lawyers. i've spoken to people from the te...