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Primaries, it is not winner take all with delegates. so on it does become a math game in terms of collecting delegates. >> of course. >> you do have to hit a certain percentage though. and that next debate in iowa is in january. why not is going to host it along with the "des moines register." and now at this point you have not qualified under the dnc's tougher criteria. if you don't make it in, this will be the first time you won't have been on the debate stage, what will that mean for your campaign? >> we're very confident that i'll be on that stage in january. i love it when cnn moderates a...

In new hampshire, you have to look ahead on the calendar and say where is he going to do well. i don't think you come off of that, and then do well in south carolina. he's building something of a strong operation in nevada but that's a state that i think tends to follow the national polls. then you have super tuesday that's dominated by a lot of hard-core conservative red states. so you've got to get a toehold somewhere. you've got to start collecting delegates somewhere and it is just hard to see where jeb gets a toehold in the calendar. >> molly ball, thanks for being with me this morning. ...

Analogy. >> and they were close in delegates the whole time and battling each other and there were, there was a lot at stake every week. after this election, if romney wins it it pretty big, then, the differential is going to be so high it's going to have a tough-- grirn and santorum has a tough argument why i should be in the race. >> and after, he'll play stay until after super tuesday and people in the party will urge him to get out of race. again, i was crunching the numbers and mathematically gingrich can stay in this and looks like a war of attrition, gingrich is not going anywhere. >> h...

Geography coming out of florida with nevada, arizona and states like michigan that favor more romney than they do any other candidate in the race. >> on that note ron paul looks to finish third or fourth in florida. he has never been in the primary pack. he signalled he intends to stay in this thing for the long-term. he talked about the fact he wants to keep collecting delegates along the way. he can have a say. he wants to have an impact on the gop flat form. he want to have a voice. do you think him staying in and possibly rick santorum staying in as well if you are splitting them four-ways...