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Systems by going through elected officials through spear first quarter. it allows your computer to the blood flood with malware when you click that link. they have used this all over the world. by doing, this it show they'd had an intelligence collection process that was weaponized. and they were going to get to these election officials. now whether it was just for the registration tolls or whether it was to get access to their voting tally systems, we don't know. all we know is john brennan of the cia warned them. they actually weaponized this system and put it into place and were going to us...

Were preaching all of these rules over the course of most of the presidency and exposing people on upstream. this went on the internet and you queried something ray said something to somebody, not collected as part of any sort of international collection process, they went after it and got it. so what you say? >> first of all, the administration, you're right. messed up in october of last year that the the new rules tht had put in 2011 were not being honored. we have to be a little bit careful of how we look at this because with all due respect to senator paul, this is not telephone calls. thi...

Reiterated what we heard from general mcmaster earlier in the day, the national security advisor, that the president hadn't been aware of sources and methods. by their thinking, how cot president have revealed something that would have xrom mi compromised sources and methods. >> let's get to one of those former intelligence officious, our own malcolm nance, an msnbc terrorism analyst for us here at msnbc. malcolm, does this endanger national security? >> well, yes, it does endanger national security. even though the president himself may have thought in that moment that he was going to declass...

Delinquent and depraved, and something has got to give in this narrative about the city of detroit. if they wanted to stabilize the system, go after the people with the big bills first. >> right. and sir, very quickly, what does privatization have to do with this whole mix? as we know, the state of michigan is no longer being operated under normal democracy. we have this weird manager system. what does that have to do with this? >> well, you've got an appointed, unelected emergency manager. reports only to the governor. runs the entire city of detroit. at the end of the day, what this collecti...

Former intelligence officials and privacy advocates say it's reasonable to presume other telephone companies got similar orders. >> if this is a, an open-ended and indiscriminate collection process as it seems to be, then, logically, one would expect it to be much bigger than verizon business. >> reporter: and it all leaves the administration needing to explain this exchange in march. >> does the nsa direct e check any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. >> reporter: that verizon program law-makers say having acces...