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Messaging. let's face it. they kill people. you've got to be able to find a way to defend those who are trying to basically -- president al sisi is under constant death threat for saying what he did. this is where we can be helpful. we can't do it for them. but the long-term solution first stopping isis and its spread. secondly looking at how we can settle the region. third, bring those elements of the muslim faith together to help them deradicalize their own faith. >> it strikes me that that's the only solution to it. al qaeda becomes isis becomes the next thing unless the secular muslims put...

Of an al qaeda-affiliated group. isn't that a huge red flag? >> as colonel schaeffer was saying the whole thing is a red flag. the real red flag we don't have a handle on the way we are fighting this war on terror globally and here at home. why did we have to release these five particular people? they were chosen by the taliban. what we are seeing is things not thought through like the patriot act expiring. why are we allowing that to expire? why aren't we discussing it figuring out what's good and bad about it? why are these things politicalized? i agree with colonel schaeffer and disagree wi...

Shows the country's military bombarding isis anbar province with air strikes. colonel, we've seen air strikes from coalition forces aimed at isis for months. this strike is from the iraqi air force. is this a sign they are getting stronger and could be more successful in the fight against isis? >> they have to be. there is no doubt here when you see large armies amassing in open broad daylight. you have to do something. ash carter's comments were true. iraqi army has to get its act together. we should do more to motivate it. who can we work with? s we underutilized our own air force. we are ru...

And the badr corps have done. i think we're going to see them move closer towards your more terrorist type of aspects that we've seen with the car bombs. the suicide bombs and moving into afghanistan just continues to move their role and shows them as a transnational power which they're trying to become. >> you know colonel schaeffer, isn't that kind of the objective of isis? that they want to be a threat, not just in iraq where clearly it is but move on to other places afghan it would seem. would really send a strong message with u.s. military troops moving out of afghanistan. and now isis ma...

Embarrassed. >> gregory hicks took over for chris after he was killed. a man who was on the ground, not an anonymous source. >> i want to read you a couple of lines from this piece. surveillance appears to have been underway 12 hours before the assault started. then it goes on to say, angry video motivated the initial attack. looters were the ones who ravaged the compound. none of these people have anything to do with al qaeda according to "the new york times" report. these are locals who happen to be bad guys that we had some ties to. again, there's one mastermind that apparently, according t...