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Mcdonald case that he is living here in chicago. he is benefiting from being here in chicago. the van base he is pulling on even with the political piece, he is reaching out and trying to reach those people that will resonate with him with that particular point of view or anti-trump or however you want to talk about it. you know, martha, for me, you know, this was stupidity because i don't know if the guy has ever watched a detective show, the paper trail he left. the cameras out. i couldn't believe this. i was like this is incredible. he did that in studierville. he couldn't have done this on...

Trying to get more. we want to get them to talk. we want to get them to communicate. >> reporter: but wasn't going to happen, by the look of it. even though they kept talking to fred. >> we kept going to the husband. >> reporter: playing dumb, of course, but hoping he'd panic and call el cubano. >> i mean, at the point we were calling almost every day but, again, trying to give a reason so he wouldn't become more suspicious than what he was. >> reporter: oh, just one more question, sir. >> exactly. i felt like columbo. oh, one more, sir. >> reporter: this was a game, of course, with deadly con...

Touch with his feelings, they didn't know they wouldn't be able to shut him up. and then it's dysfunction this, dysfunction that. >> you have strong feelings about this. >> every decade, you get somebody like peter faulk as columbo or carroll o'connor as archie bunker. someone you can't imagine anyone else afterwards. james gandolfini is that as tony soprano. >> i think it's supposed to be a mafia story but it's about everyday life. >> did you know that an italian invented the telephone? >> alexander graham bell is italian? >> see what i'm talking about. antonio finucci invented the telephone ...

Somebody like peter faulk as columbo or carroll o'connor as archie bunker. somebody you just can't imagine anyone else afterwards. james gandolfini is that as tony soprano. >> i think it's supposed to be a mafia story. >> it's also about everyday life. >> did you know that an italian invented the telephone? >> alexander graham bell is italian? >> you see? see what i'm talking about? antonio finucci invented the telephone and he got robbed. everybody knows that. >> who invented the mafia? >> what? >> "the sopranos" took the mystery out of being a mobster. ♪ i'm a fool to do your dirty work â™...

A year now. >> right. >> that's a ton of time. mueller four times has asked a federal judge to give him more time to work with flynn, and there have been basically zero leaks out of flynn's cooperation with the mueller team. we don't know what he's been telling him and that suggests that mueller is happy with what he's getting. >> let me go to emily on this. several hours of inquisition, you want to be careful with michael cohen. as peter said a few minutes ago, was right in there, he was snuggled in with trump with everything he was doing. he was his fixer. he was the guy that dealt with the ...