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Deserve and need it getting everything they deserve and need but is there an open secret that in some ways some guys that come back yet almost as an entitlement? >> nothing to do with the civilian population. what you got burned on it was you started talking about family business outside the family. all of us know who those people are. we know the guys would use it because they're the family but they've created this atmosphere when they can coach you and some of these guys have become a victim of being a victim. you know who they are. >> we fought this war for over 15 years and if you enter in...

There is operational space that we have to account for. and also there are the steps that are necessary to ensure that at a very tactical level the hand off is taking place in a very, very deliberate way so that the ongoing missions can continue to be successfully fought and achieved. but also we have to keep in mind that there is a possibility that the united states would have to redeploy back into syria. you have to keep the ground available for the united states to do that. so these are the steps that they're going through right now. this is a deliberate withdrawal. now, the challenge becom...

So right now that's the asset. on a going forward base, that may change. >> colonel, the president said this trip was planned three or four weeks ago. we know for general security purposes presidential trips are kept quiet but explain the specific concerns when a president goes into a combat area. >> of course you've got other people that don't wish us well. nothing would suit them better than to put the president at risk. so anywhere the president goes, they've got to do all the advance work, they have to maintain security and make sure he's safe while he's on the ground. this is a big operat...

The troops, have a conversation with them, but none of this is scripted and it comes off very awkward. >> what you're saying is exactly what i've been hearing from retired military folks. lastly, i want to put this picture up on the screen. in is general scott miller, four-star commander in afghanistan. he's photographed carrying this assault weapon. he was walking with local officials, military prn ersonne he has his own security there. in a war zone, why is it a big deal he has this kind of rifle. it's quite rare, bob. can you explain why? >> i've never seen a commander carry i think that's ...

Novice. >> no. i mean, piers, look, you don't set off that many explosions without having tested this stuff. it's just a fact. you talk to anybody who deals with it. yes, you can make one bomb, you can blow up a toaster at home with a cell phone. yes. on and on and on. it's all sort of hollywood fantasy. but when you're you said fire, a running gun battle and throwing explosives out of a car, lighting them with a cigarette lighter, with i don't know how they lit them. and these things go off, it just doesn't happen. unless you've had some sort of experience, or you've been in a combat area. th...