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Afghanistan and the pakistan greater region than general mcnicholson. if he is saying he needs 3,000 to 5,000 more troops, what he's really looking at is building capacity in the police forces and military of the afghan national police, afghan national military, and also for governance. let's remember, they were xlo completely dismantled so their governance is continuing to grow and now we have a new threat with isis there. we are trying to bring the taliban to the table politically. so those three things are really why you need 3,000 to 5,000 troops is roughly a combat brigade. there has also...

Appreciate. >> i want to start with isis. secretary of defense says he's open to u.s. ground forces in ramadi, but you get the sense that is not something in the cards for the future? >> yeah. i'm not so sure we need a, you know, combat brigade. but we do need more american ground forces as trainers and advisers. a couple of -- maybe an aviation battalion of attack helicopters to speed up the fight against isil. we have 3,500. i would go to 10,000. they would be trainers and advisers, special forces to help with places like ramadi. aviation battalion to help in the fight against isil. and forw...

Why. >> oh, yeah, sea zipper lip. >> bill: caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill owe o'rei. thanks for watching us tonight. turmoil within the democratic party. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. on the breaking news front. there is good news and bad news for president obama. good news is that the last active combat brigade in iraq has left that country as the u.s.a. continues to draw down our troops certainly a positive thing. on the negative 12,000 last week. more wad news on the economic front. both of these ...

Hotbed of the insurgency during the surge of 2007. >> kind of mixed feelings about it. because we're going home. you know. and -- i mean, in spite of what everybody says, we are kind of making history here. >> reporter: president obama had set august 31st as the deadline for ending american combat operations in iraq. although the last combat brigade has left, the official combat mission will not end for another couple of weeks. >> our commitment in iraq is changing from a military effort led by our troops to a civilian effort led by our diplomats. >> reporter: 50,000 u.s. troops will remain in...

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