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The supposed pause in fighting. what are your concerns about what comes next? >> i have so many concerns about what goes next. i was an army ranger, served in iraq and afghanistan, three combat deployments. i know well the situation that's unfolding there. i actually led a congressional delegation a few weeks ago to afghanistan, to jordan, to the syrian border. i talked with our senior military commanders, our diplomats, intelligence officials. number one, none of them had any idea this was about to happen. so there's a huge disconnect between the white house and our top senior diplomats and i...

Have a dozen combat deployments. and, you know, i remind people there's over 60,000 killed and wounded in the u.s. armed forces in iraq and afghanistan. so it's been an unbelievable commitment. they're up to it. i think they'll stay in the fight as long as they're asked to. to the footprint in afghanistan is now way down. it's around 20,000 nato forces. but it's been a display of courage and commitment, the likes of which a country has rarely seen. >> and also let our viewers know, if the united states gets out, does that mean everybody follows suit? >> i cannot imagine anybody in their right ...

Tell our viewers how unusual the pace of deployments has been for our armed forces given the fact that we've been at it for 18 years. >> well, it's remarkable. you know, i don't think there's been anything like this since world war ii, which was an open-ended commitment. 16 million people in the armed forces. the entire country was wrapped up in the war and committed to it, but now we've got a very small essentially cadre, 1% of the population fighting our wars. many of these young men and women have has -- and the senior ncos and the lieutenant colonels have a dozen combat deployments. and, y...

Sacrifice, the courage in many ways of all of those troops. >> just for a little context here, something i think about a lot but we don't think to say often enough. tell our viewers how unusual the pace of deployments has been for our armed forces given the fact that we've been at it for 18 years. >> well, it's remarkable. you know, i don't think there's been anything like this since world war ii, which was an open-ended commitment. 16 million people in the armed forces. the entire country was wrapped up in the war and committed to it, but now we've got a very small essentially cadre, 1% of th...

Let me ask you, the both of you, actually but you first. in looking at this issue and opening up our military engagements around the world you would have to get into the fact that we have special forces, special operation troops in latin america, south america, africa, all over the world. are you prepared to put everything on the table in terms of what we're trying to achieve here? >> well, most of those forces are actually not operating under the 2001 amendment. some are operating one title x or working with the cia, operating under title 50. if you have this debate in public doesn't mean you...