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Right now. i would -- i really want this agreement or i want the result to be denuclearization complete, exactly what the president is seeking and also not have any outbreak of war. that's a pretty thin lane to get into particularly if the talks break down. i also think we need to put as much pressure on china to ensure that combat doesn't -- there is no combat outbreak and certainly include our allies in japan as well as south koreans in generating this kind of outcome. what i'm most concerned about is if this doesn't result in a positive outcome, the potential for, i think, military conflict...

Right now. i would -- i really want this agreement or i want the result to be denuclearization complete, exactly what the president is seeking and also not have any outbreak of war. that's a pretty thin lane to get into particularly if the talks break down. i also think we need to put as much pressure on china to ensure that combat doesn't -- there is no combat outbreak and certainly include our allies in japan as well as south koreans in generating this kind of outcome. what i'm most concerned about is if this doesn't result in a positive outcome, the potential for, i think, military conflict...

Right now. i would -- i really want this agreement or i want the result to be denuclearization complete, exactly what the president is seeking and also not have any outbreak of war. that's a pretty thin lane to get into particularly if the talks break down. i also think we need to put as much pressure on china to ensure that combat doesn't -- there is no combat outbreak and certainly include our allies in japan as well as south koreans in generating this kind of outcome. what i'm most concerned about is if this doesn't result in a positive outcome, the potential for, i think, military conflict...

The mission and trying to bring them become into the country to fight the fight. well, that was a complete failure and now essentially they're trying to do something similar with existing forces. they say they have been successful when they have been able to enhance the work of existing forces in iraq and syria. the problem is they have not been able to find reliable partners on a -- as is often need be to really make a difference in this war. also, a part of this, of course, is diplomacy. the point you raised, diplomacy in vienna and the administration hopes that by stepping up its military g...

Forces, basically being at the forward edge of the battle area. this is not going to be very much different if the people who are involved in training the indigenous forces are doing their jobs properly, you can't possibly lead from the rear and you can't even train from the rear. you've got to be with it and with them when they encounter the enemy. so anybody who says they're not in combat doesn't know what he's talking about. >> now to retired four-star army general barry mccaffrey, recipient of two distinguished service crosses and a chest full of other medals in combat himself. general mcc...