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First announced by then secretary of defense leon panetta. really it's going to come down to execution and how they plan to do this, and this is something that we're going to be watching to make sure that it is carried out and the intent of this policy change is brought to fruition. as you talked before, women have been serving in these ground combat units for quite some time now. we've seen unfortunately over 130 women since september 11th who have given their lives, paid that ultimate price through their service in these combat units. it's now just about time that we're changing the policies...

Particular are so hysterical. this is what his critics are suggesting he was saying, that they can't really be trusted to adequately judge when they're about to be raped and when they're not. he hasn't backed off that notion that women can't be trusted to make the right judgment call. >> and megyn, this is one of the reasons i always say i'm a woman before i'm a democrat because i have heard men on the left and the right make disgusting and offensive remarks when it comes to women, when it comes to our emotions, and when it comes to our ability, whether it's able to handle a combat role, wheth...

They're not in combat situation and don't get paid enough because you get combat pay and those seem to be valid points. >> i think there are some valid points. there are a lot of things the military needs to address to get at real equality. something like sexual assault. look at something the military still is grappling with, a cultural issue that we've got to do better at to take care of female service members and make sure they're honored and then we need to find ways to promote capable women. >> bill: that goes back into the combat. if you're denying them combat, they're not going to be pro...

They're not in combat situation and don't get paid enough because you get combat pay and those seem to be valid points. >> i think there are some valid points. there are a lot of things the military needs to address to get at real equality. something like sexual assault. look at something the military still is grappling with, a cultural issue that we've got to do better at to take care of female service members and make sure they're honored and then we need to find ways to promote capable women. >> bill: that goes back into the combat. if you're denying them combat, they're not going to be pro...

Pilot who lost both legs in iraq. technically she was not engaged in ground warfare because she was flying the aircraft and it was only the people shooting her down on the ground. do you really want to split hairs with her about whether or not that count as combat? in the wars and iraq and afghanistan, defining what counts as a combat role and what does not count as a combat role has been a fool's errand from the beginning. in those wars over the past decade, 61 american women have been killed in iraq in combat by hostile action. and in afghanistan, where the war is still going on, so far 23 a...