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Decreasing his 60-year prison sentence. outside the hearing room collins was still determined to prove his case. if to nobody else, us. >> this is the woman right here, right? in her hand she has a mace can. the intriguing thing here is she must be right handed because she takes the stance of an aggressor in a combat situation, and i mean, you guys know about my martial arts training and history so i know what i'm talking about. anyway, here is the very first cell. if you can see real close, you'll see the flesh of the first individual. that's his face. this is flesh here. see that little spot...

Outside the hearing room collins was still determined to prove his case. if to nobody else, us. >> this is the woman right here, right? in her hand she has a mace can. the intriguing thing here is she must be right handed because she takes the stance of an aggressor in a combat situation, and i mean, you guys know about my martial arts training and history so i know what i'm talking about. anyway, here is the very first cell. if you can see real close, you'll see the flesh of the first individual. that's his face. this is flesh here. see that little spot right there? that's flesh. now, if you ...

But if there's any doubt, is that the standard? if there's some doubt, then they don't award it? >> but they created the burden of doubt in this case, megyn. they actually created the doubt. there was of no doubt -- megyn: but the autopsy report. >> right. but the autopsy report can't tell you what a person does under extreme duress after being shot in a combat situation. and that's my point. that's why this panel is unprecedented in trying to look at an autopsy report after the body is already in the actual ground. that's not what you look to in the these cases. you look to the people that we...

It's hard for a secretary of defense to overturn precedent set by the prior secretary of defense. i think it gets a little bit political, too, which is sad. the grounds for the medal of honor, it's very simple. two eyewitnesses. that's all your need, just go. and the -- just two. and in the words of those marines in that room and the fact that those marines whose lives were saved by rafael, that they're able to testify to this because they're alive now because of what he did, that's enough for me. and here's the biggest problem, too, it's hard to have bureaucrats in d.c., doctors whether they'...

Hillary clinton, of trying to cover for the president. some said this was a lauded jester. mrs. clinton was left to explain susan rice's assertion five days after the attack that grew out of a protest against an anti-islam movie made in the united states. a state department security expert testified that it was clear within a day or so that there was no protest in benghazi, though there had long than an assessment of that before. >> the fog of war, the confusion they getting any kind of combat situation -- this was an attack that went on for hours. reporter: mrs. clinton says it will take an f...