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Get out of afghanistan, sooner, later or immediately. people are ready to come home. >> you're still not talking about the way that we're doing it. i want to ask you one philosophical point. i don't mean to be rude here but i'm just wondering, in the last 20 years, is there any act with u.s. intervention with military force abroad that you support? >> yes. after we were attacked on 9/11, i supported going to afghanistan. we're ignoring the resolution, going after the people who planned, abetted those who attacked us. it never said mali, somali, syria. none of this was ever enacted in congress....

Going to win and what that's going to look like. when we come to a pretty successful middle ground of having a small footprint and the -- the elimination in large part of many isis strong holds is a success, but when you have a sort of a small footprint and success and then you abandon that likely to a vacuum as we did in iraq as well when you are kind of on the leading edge and you are getting done what you need to get done, that to me is discouraging. but we need a justification of all of it regardless and the leaders do not talk to the american people about this because it is uncomfortable....

If the u.s. withdraws from syria precipitously and unwisely, then the question is will the u.s. have to go back again? take a listen to something president trump said during the 2016 about obama withdrawing u.s. troops precipitous and too early. take a listen. >> obama is the founder of isis. the founder. >> president trump calls obama the founder of isis because he says his decision to withdraw troops from iraq created this vacuum in the middle east. does the president -- >> i think it's important -- >> go ahead. >> i think it's important we get history correct here. where did isis begin? the...

To many who have payed the ultimate price for those things. the american people deserves jurisdictions for why we are in different places, how we are going to win and what that's going to look like. what is disconcerting to me, when we come to a pretty successful middle ground of having a small footprint and the -- the elimination in large part of many isis strong holds is a success, but when you have a sort of a small footprint and success and then you abandon that likely to a vacuum as we did in iraq as well when you are kind of on the leading edge and you are getting done what you need to g...

Former top diplomat charged with combating isis, john allen, told me and i want to get your response. >> we all thought at one point they would come home. a precipitous departure of our troops could create a military disaster and global coalition will think twice about coming to help the united states if we need to in a great emergency because they know we won't consult with them when the time come. >> you're always talking about the importances of alliances and diplomacy. don't you think the way this is being done without the consultation of allies could -- go ahead. >> here is the thing, jak...