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Why he's been so successful. >> that and he doesn't have kids. if you have kids -- >> and a very patient wife. >> that's your excuse. >> let's talk quickly about the conan o'brien debacle as it became. conan is a great guy, very funny guy. obviously the whole thing became a disaster. many comedians blamed jay leno. i must say i never did. i thought it wasn't his fault. he was told look you got to leave in five years time. when it came he was still by far the most popular guy doing that in the country. am i wrong? was he blamed? >> he's blamed. there are a lot of people in the comedy community ...

President obama, 1, 011. george w. bush was the second most. over 200 more jokes than these other three combined. so who is number one, i think it's pretty obvious, leno loved to joke about powerful figures and scandalous behavior. so it made former president bill clinton his prime target. 1 in every 10 jokes leno made about anybody were aimed at that former president. there's another thing that the legacy of jay and leno, in the comedy community. everybody's got their hold on the generational divide. the new york divide, but there's one thing you got to understand about jay leno. jay leno is ...

Comics don't agree on anything. everyone is talking about the comedy community. are you friends with elan? yes. elan just got a special. >> i hate elan. >> we don't even have health insurance. it's like comedians assemble. >> it's kind of funny, too, because of the activism and it got so crazy because it's something like them. it's the narcassism behind, let's hold this torch up. >> the thing is, all of a sudden it became about free speech. that's where this whole argument became awry. no government entity was like, you are not allowed to make rape voeks. but that dude over there may joke abou...