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Was saying earlier in the broadcast, i don't think it's good to file papers with a federal judge and even be wrong 3%, 4%, 5% of the time. to make mistakes which, if true that they've gotten the names wrong, they've gotten amounts wrong, they've gotten transactions wrong, even though the bulk of it may be right, i still don't think that's good for avenatti. look, i'm not a fan and never have been a fan when i was with a government and now that i represent people on the other side, i'm not a fan of trying your cases in the media and clearly that's avenatti's strategy here. >> well, let me ask a...

It's sort of a public relations nightmare. >> still out there trolling the president, one could argue. hey jeremy, i also note that mueller, rosenstein, sessions, all three remain on the job. and the federal payroll tonight. >> they do. and i'm sure all of them are wondering when the ax falls on them. because as the comey case showed us, president trump doesn't really seem to have much restraint when it comes to making bold, really reckless decisions like this. so i think when all is said and done, when you look back on donald trump's first year in the white house, there's no doubt that this i...

I mean, this kind of influence is bought and sold every day in washington. >> you know, maybe, maybe not. we don't know enough about the facts. it certainly is an accumulation of the swamp that trump ran against. law in this country -- it's interesting. if this was foreign law, it would be illegal under a statute called the foreign corrupt practices act, most likely. but in this country, there's recent supreme court case law that makes it very difficult for prosecutors to allege this sort of pay to play conduct as a crime. and there is a case in virginia involving mcdonald. and that case came ...

Documents, these records? >> it may, brian. because the way this is -- the posture of this thing is very interesting. the lawyers for cohen have opposed avenatti's request to even practice in front of judge wood. they've come in and they've said look, he is on the media, he's poisoning the jury pool. he's submitting false and misleading documents to the court. he shouldn't be allowed to practice in the southern district of new york .. very aggressive stand. i've only seen it, doing this for about 35 year, i've only seen that once, maybe twice in extreme circumstances. >> it's usually i'm told ...

Changed what we learn about this case? what the public knows about this case and what's always been true remains true -- mueller's proceeding at his altitude. southern district of new york proceeding at theirs. and we get to know a small portion of it? >> i think that's right, brian. and i also agree with joyce as well in as much as you've got even another level of an investigative agency who's now announced their presence, which is the treasury department. i think these were -- that he included information based from sars, suspicious activity reports, sars, which are generally filed by financ...