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>> ten days ago, this was not the schedule. this is the comey effect. this is what jim comey did knot to the election. he put donald trump in minnesota and hillary clinton in michigan. that's the way, that's the effect of the momentum change in this race that was put on this race by the external actions of the fbi. and that's, i think it's unforgivable sin for the fbi, but i don't know that it's something we know how to project from. >> for our viewers friday night who did not see chris matthews reporting ton democratic boss in philadelphia, if you missed that, but if you were watching tonight...

Kucinich. david, let's start with you. the comey effect. it changes every week. what today has the comey effect of the last nine days been? >> the legacy of this can be debated for a long time. no question this letter stopped clinton's momentum in a huge way. up until that time, this was a debate in the election about his fitness. donald trump's fitness for office. it switched and became more about her and her bad judgment and e-mail server. that stopped the momentum. she came out of that and it is trending her way. the damage has been done in the focus on this and another sign of why it was s...

>> that's what we'll never fully know. let's say this is what the electoral map looks like or maybe she gets slightly more because she wins one of the sunbelt states. we'll never know if this is natural tightening, republicans, quote, unquote, coming home or is this a comey effect. is this a motivator for republicans? i think if we see that it's a motivator, then do these states, all of them, go under five points. do we see that that final result is somewhere under 5? i think we see that, then it's not just momentum, it's comey momentum. >> we know hillary clinton has money. why not spend it a...

Donald trump and russia. >> the term double standard is one most women would respond to. she has taken an aggressive stance against the decision comey made. and frankly she should. because that decision has created what i call the comey effect. and it has indeed energized the trump forces. it has brought some wayward reluctant republic partisans back to trump. comey, i don't think he ne necessarily intended it, has hurt hillary clinton's campaign. but it's time to move on. she needs to get back on the offensive on a wide range of issues. she's made her point. most democrats get it about direct...

Popular vote goes down, as maybe she loses some of the really close battlegrounds, if this story continues, you're going to have democrats who might have won senate seats and might have won house seats not win. it's the comey effect. >> is that lee atwater's picture behind you there, larry? >> it is. he gave that to me years ago. >> i know i'm knocking it, but he was the guy who infamously, notoriously said he would make willie horton, the guy who got charged with rape and everything after he got out on his pardon or whatever, his furlough, he said, i'm going to make dukakis's running mate. i'...