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Tantamount to unlawful command influence. the president has a right to overturn a court-martial conviction, the right to overturn and administrative proceeding in this case one that could strip chief gallagher of his s.e.a.l. trident. the president ought to wait until after the administrative meetings take place. it's unlawful command influence. i was an army jag officer in the early days of my career. we have to let the system work. in these particular cases the system does work. mr. gallagher was acquitted on a number of offenses but found guilty of basically a violation of uniform code of m...

That somehow, if we don't comply with their requests, we're being unpatriotic. how about all those service members who are scarred for the rest of their lives, as senator mcsally indicated, it has been with her forever. and yet she stayed there. now, i don't know that she even agrees with me on taking them out of the chain of command. but we want to keep it in the military. we want to create a separate office so that it can be reviewed by like a special victims unit, with the attorneys and the investigators there. and what we're seeing now is the undue command influence that's being used by th...

But i'm saying it is, you cannot pierce that layer into the inspector general knowing this ig is not someone that could be influenced in that way. so i think that he's half right. the doj was politicized but i don't think that seeped into the ig's office. >> i want to play what he said for our viewers in case they missed it. >> the president publicly demanded a result and the office of the inspector general delivered that result. i know they struggled to do so. some of the documents that we have been able to review in the last few months clearly indicate that. but the president desired that i ...

Particular case -- are you saying they were conspiring with the white house? >> what i know, anderson, is that the president very publicly demanded a result, and the office of the inspector general delivered that result. i know they struggled to do so. some of the documents we have been able to review in the last few months are clearly indicating that. but the president desired that i be gone before i could be eligible to retire. the office of the inspector general rushed to get that done on time. one of the many ways. >> essentially, you're saying they were doing the president's bidding on th...

Been able to review in the last few months are clearly indicating that. but the president desired that i be gone before i could be eligible to retire. the office of the inspector general rushed to get that done on time. one of the many ways. >> essentially, you're saying they were doing the president's bidding on this. >> do i think there was inappropriate command influence, political influence on the ultimate outcome? absolutely, i think that. >> you talk about a meeting with the gang of eight, the group of congressional leaders who are briefed on intelligence matters. in this meeting, you in...