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Broadcasting it. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me, neil. >> neil: so you had a chance to listen to the defense secretary today. they were kind of caught in a position here of having to say, well, we did tell the commander-in-chief that drawing down our troops to zero was not a good idea. they mentioned as commander chief, he's free to override him, which he is, but the president himself said that this never happened. when george stephanopoulos was interviewing him. so what did you make of that? >> yeah, you know, i think that what we got out of this hearing, one big take-away is ...

Behind a common mission, i think that's the leadership experience we need for the next commander chief. neil: do you think that the next commander-in-chief should be a veteran. >> it's not a litmus test. my experience is valuable and certainly at a time the country has been as divided in my lifetime, it would be a good leadership experience to bring to the table to take on donald trump. and i'm also a democrat who believes that it's going to be harder to beat donald trump than many democrats like to think. neil: all right. congressman, we'll watch closely. good seeing you. >> good seeing you, ...

Vietnam because of a bone spur condition in your feet. do you wish you'd be able to serve? would you have liked to have serve your country? >> well, i was never a fan of that war, i'll be honest with you. i thought it was a terrible war, i thought it was very far away. you're talking about vietnam, and at that time, nobody ever heard of the country. >> would you have liked to have served generally? perhaps in another -- >> i would not have minded that at all, i would have been horned. but i think i'm making up for it right now, and making up for it rapidly because we're rebuilding our military...

I think that's exactly the kind of leadership we need from the next commander in chief. i'm the only candidate who is talking about taking donald trump on as commander in chief. about questioning what really makes a patriot. let's not forget, this is a guy who used his father's connections to lie about his feet so he didn't have to serve in his generation's war. what a contrast between donald trump and an american president like john f. kennedy who used his father's connections to get medically cleared when he shouldn't have been cleared so he could deploy in his aga generation's war. this say...

A deal with is 101 criminal defense when you're dealing with a cooperating witness. on the other hand, because this is the president of the united states, not a lawyer or a p department calling this person a liar. this is essentially the department of justice. the head of the d.o.j. calling this person a liar. maybe things are difference when you have the power of the white house behind you. >> is the president, she commander chief. he also has millions of nowers down there that he can't control. he is always this kind of control that there is a notion where she carrying a tremendous amount of...