Surpassing $1,500 an ounce, oil over $100 a barrel, become too expensive. let's talk about the future. i suppose that's uncertain as well? >> you can't talk about commodity pricing without talking about china, of course. their gdp is around 1% since the 1970s. their imports of copper are falling dramatically. i think it's generally accepted that commodity prices will fall as the chinese economy slows down. gold is another interesting one because trade is worried about central banks debasing their economies. the fed is still printing money, contrary to the easing. gold is say safe haven. once w...