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Period. >> that i believe. but the point is that, there is a case that this is, that it's rational and, indeed, beneficial to move these kind of jobs out of this country. >> just a few more things. 85%, prior to 2000, 85% of the manufacturing jobs lost were lost at domestic productivity gains. two-thirds were lost, so, there's a lot of offshoring that might have occurred. i was the head of the manufacturing practice at bain. there were lousy investments if you take stuff over to china. the value is gone and it's a lousy commodity product and you're making it in high volume. that's not where su...

In the 1990s you had a booming economy and a push to alter, if not end, the welfare state by the 2000s a real estate bubble and today a foreclosure crisis. in all of these situations a couple of things consistent. the amount of money people spend on housing and transportation is immense and they can't afford it. you want to be more positive than that. many, many factors about afford ability and energy consumption and, frankly, about the role of design in any of it. the american single family house is a commodity product that has virtually no research and development and no design. architects i...