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Very, very loyal to the president. i love these guys. i respect these guys. i love the president. the president as phenomenal with the president. the president himself is always going to be the president. i think he's got some of the best political instincts in the world and perhaps in history. he's done a phenomenal job for the american people. he is the most competitive person i have ever met. okay, i've seen this guy throw a dead spiral through a tire. i've seen him at madison square garden with a top coat on, standing in the key, hitting foul shots and swishing them. he sinks three foot pu...

I love the president. i obviously love the country. he's genuinely a wonderful human being. i love the president and i'm very, very loyal to the president. i love these guys. i respect these guys. i love the president. the president as phenomenal with the president. the president himself is always going to be the president. i think he's got some of the best political instincts in the world and programs in history. he's done a phenomenal job for the american people. he is the most competitive person i have ever met. okay, i've seen this guy throw a dead spiral through a tire. i've seen him at m...

So it is important to show that. it is also critically important because now we have all these inconsistent statements about what led up to the meeting, what was said in the meeting, and perhaps who was even in the meeting. so in that situation it can also become very important to prosecutors if later people who were there, who talked about it, say something inconsistent. so it is important, but maybe not the smoking gun. >> tara, on that note, have you some reporting about how jared kushner wants a more aggressive communication message when it comes to this meeting. tell us what you've learne...

Seem incredibly incompetent. >> it's unfocused. that's the problem with the white house from the beginning. one area, they have got their foreign policy team together, that's fantastic. they need two people going into the second 100 days. one is a person that can really craft a communication message. mr. president, your job this week is keeping the government open. mr. president, your job next week is introducing your tax bill. mr. president, your job three weeks from now is -- fill in the blank. you only have so much space. who taught us that george w. bush in 1988 ran one of the most surpris...

Were different from everybody else. you can't ask them to change that. could you ask them for more money? >> martha: before i let you go go, big communication message for the trump communication folks, having been there. >> today? it is okay to say "i don't know." if your tired mind is in fact somebody else's, you have to go over it and over. just tap the brakes and wait a minute. that i make it under time? >> martha: absolutely. thanks, dana. straight ahead, president trump's pick for labor secretary, surprisingly dropping out just hours ago. ed henry here with breaking news on match. when we...