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Taking a page from the trump play book a spokeswoman for chinese government called the reporting fake news and suggested president trump exchange his iphone for a cellphone made by a chinese manufacturer. joining us now is malcolm nance, an msnbc counter intelligence. they can intercept using cell towers, the phone itself, using the device. the national security counsel has given the president a phone that apparently is fixed for this sort of stuff, and the president doesn't like that. >> well, you're absolutely right. this device that everybody carries is an intelligence agigator and communic...

Big joke, almost like a trivia question category. but people were afraid to sideline her. people were afraid to exclude her because of the special hold that she had until she got the boot. >> mike, white house as you've been seeing railing against her credibility, question might be is how widespread might be this issue, right, of recording in certain places where we've not seen or heard such things before? >> i would be stunned if it was. people are calling this very unusual, one of the worst breeches of protocol you could possibly have in the situation room. and as your viewers know, when you...

Being in the embassy in london. but nonetheless it does seem to suggest he had contact with julian assange. they don't have to meet face-to-face to have contact. they can speak by telephone, some other communications device, by text, direct message or other means. so i don't know that it was literally true, but it seems coincidental he has this information, is publishing this information, and to not have spoken to julian assange. so i'm sure robert mueller is trying to get to the bottom of that, what kind of coordination there was between roger stone and wikileaks and as the congressman said w...

Doesn't understand and doesn't respect the independence of the justice department. >> if he wanted to fire the toe attorney general, he could fire the attorney general. >> he could fire the attorney general although then he would have to appoint somebody new, nominate somebody new, who would then have to go to a senate confirmation. the attorney general so far has, i think, tried to walk a certain line on certain decisions. he has done the absolute right thing, for example, recusing himself from the russia investigation. but the president consistently goes after the attorney general, goes afte...

Attorney general. he has consistently gone after individuals who he believes are in charge of this investigation, and it is consistent. it is deliberate. and it is his effort because he doesn't understand and doesn't respect the independence of the justice department. >> if he wanted to fire the attorney general, he could fire the attorney general. >> he could fire the attorney general although then he would have to appoint somebody new, nominate somebody new, who would then have to go to a senate confirmation. the attorney general so far has, i think, tried to walk a certain line on certain d...